It’s also relevant that a lot of times, that “fewer people should have access to nature” turns into a weird superiority thing (who is worthy? not those lowlifes over there [ick]), and on a larger scale, “humans are what’s wrong with the world”/fallacies about untouched nature ignores that most individuals aren’t doing damage at the system-level scale and gets right back into weird nonsense about who deserves to be allowed to populate.. also ick. If anything, getting outdoors and paying attention tells us both that we are small parts of a whole *and* that small things can have big impacts.
And, yeah, what you said about getting outside being good for us, and for a friendly intro and teaching people doing more good than shouting. That’s worth supporting.
Thanks so much for reading. Yeah, I’d agree that there seems to be a weird overlap in the people who think they should control who gets to experience nature, and the ones who think they should control who has kids…
I’m just tired of chuds celebrating the increase of sedentary, indoor, solitary life. You can probably tell I lost my cool a bit writing this one lol
I'm with Teddy also, but I bet if he were here in 2023, he might agree there are too many of us in some places..like his beloved Yellowstone where traffic jams are now common.
BTW, for arguments sake I converted that Agent Smith to an actual back country hiker expressing such sentiments. We've all met them. I've been bagging peaks since the early sixties (I'm a geezer) and used to have cut out photographs of mountains tacked to the walls of my pre-teen bedroom! That said, some places ARE getting loved to death and no one is going around bagging bogs! But if one is up there, one can't complain if someone else is up there too! We need to be outside tramping the countryside. But it would certainly help if there were far fewer people in the world! Too damn many of us.
Hear hear!!
It’s also relevant that a lot of times, that “fewer people should have access to nature” turns into a weird superiority thing (who is worthy? not those lowlifes over there [ick]), and on a larger scale, “humans are what’s wrong with the world”/fallacies about untouched nature ignores that most individuals aren’t doing damage at the system-level scale and gets right back into weird nonsense about who deserves to be allowed to populate.. also ick. If anything, getting outdoors and paying attention tells us both that we are small parts of a whole *and* that small things can have big impacts.
And, yeah, what you said about getting outside being good for us, and for a friendly intro and teaching people doing more good than shouting. That’s worth supporting.
Thanks so much for reading. Yeah, I’d agree that there seems to be a weird overlap in the people who think they should control who gets to experience nature, and the ones who think they should control who has kids…
I’m just tired of chuds celebrating the increase of sedentary, indoor, solitary life. You can probably tell I lost my cool a bit writing this one lol
It was worthy of lost cool! I think this kind of thing needs to be addressed in the context of outdoor access and I appreciate that you did. :)
Thanks!!
“My name is Neo!!!”
Well done Cole. Count me squarely in the Teddy camp. Fuck the Smiths and the animated horseys they rode in on.
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I'm with Teddy also, but I bet if he were here in 2023, he might agree there are too many of us in some places..like his beloved Yellowstone where traffic jams are now common.
T should required for everyone to take this class one a year. There should be an annual fee associated with it. https://twitter.com/leavenotrace/status/1682133679986946053?s=46&t=yHhr9CFS49ZimrUMgPJlQw
I would feel better about an LNT class requirement if it got you something, like maybe reservation fees are waived?
Or the fee gets donated to a nature based non-profit of your choosing.
BTW, for arguments sake I converted that Agent Smith to an actual back country hiker expressing such sentiments. We've all met them. I've been bagging peaks since the early sixties (I'm a geezer) and used to have cut out photographs of mountains tacked to the walls of my pre-teen bedroom! That said, some places ARE getting loved to death and no one is going around bagging bogs! But if one is up there, one can't complain if someone else is up there too! We need to be outside tramping the countryside. But it would certainly help if there were far fewer people in the world! Too damn many of us.